Stuck on checking cpu temperature

for reference, roughly 30-50c sitting at the desktop and 70-85c in a game is normal for most desktop chips. in hwinfo there's a pile of readings - the one to watch is CPU Package on intel or Tctl/Tdie on ryzen. the bios shows it too if you'd rather not install anything.

Hwinfo64 or hwmonitor, both free. task manager only shows gpu temp, which is why people think their cpu isn't reporting one. what are you seeing at idle?